tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13639235.post113198457698063190..comments2024-02-15T12:08:49.940-05:00Comments on Sojourner: A Short Reply to India's Anonymous CommenterBrad Williamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00197301845256854051noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13639235.post-1132251874137632662005-11-17T13:24:00.000-05:002005-11-17T13:24:00.000-05:00Here is what Kipling himself has to say about this...Here is what Kipling himself has to say about this:<BR/><BR/>"A Fool Lies Here..."<BR/><BR/>Now it is not good<BR/>For the Christian’s health<BR/>To hustle the Aryan brown,<BR/>For the Christian riles<BR/>And the Aryan smiles<BR/>And he wearth the Christian down;<BR/>And the end of the fight<BR/>Is tombstone white<BR/>With the name of the late deceased,<BR/>And the epitaph drear,<BR/>“A fool lies here<BR/>Who tried to hustle the East."<BR/><BR/>— Rudyard Kipling <BR/><BR/><BR/>Regarding the Aryan Invasion theory...<BR/><BR/>The Aryan invasion theory is a 19th century bigoted colonial theory that states that all of India's achievements were done by a White Aryan race. <BR/>This has been proved to be false. The word Aryan is a sanskrit word meaning noble and refers to Brown people. There is no such thing as a White Aryan, that's propaganda that started in the 19th century carried over by the Nazi's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13639235.post-1132251605038188862005-11-17T13:20:00.000-05:002005-11-17T13:20:00.000-05:00"...has nothing to do with whether there ought to ..."...has nothing to do with whether there ought to be an Indian/Hindu caste system."<BR/><BR/>This is a load of nonsense, so you are saying all Hindus somehow like discrimination, but you are such a wonderful person ?<BR/>Your basic point I get is that India has a caste system that prevents upward mobility, yet the richest Industrialist in India is a Muslim, the Prime Minister is Sikh (2% of the population), The most powerful person and head of the ruling party (Sonia Gandhi) is a White Christian. The President is Muslim. So to state once again, I would like you to show how in the Industrialized/Urban parts of India, caste plays a major role in determining a job.<BR/>The so called caste conflicts in India are due to Landlord/ landless peasant issues, and here everyone sympathizes with the plight of the poor, and people realize that the solution is more Industrialization, and reduction of the workforce that depends on Agriculture (currently 60%). Belief in Christianity does not appear to have won their God's favor in poverty reduction in Phillipines, Brazil, Africa etc... In addition, Non-Christian countries like Japan have prospered and done very well.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Why did I bring up caste/ ethnic issues in other countries ?<BR/><BR/>One of the primary reasons is to destroy this notion that somehow India has a unique caste system, that's not found anywhere else. <BR/>Also, when someone get's on the high horse and starts giving moral lectures, it's important to point out flaws in their behavior.<BR/><BR/>I think it's very arrogant of people to accuse all 1 Billion Hindus of being bigots, especially when the accuser has a less than stellar record himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13639235.post-1131993622089509292005-11-14T13:40:00.000-05:002005-11-14T13:40:00.000-05:00Brad --I stopped by because of the comments you le...Brad --<BR/><BR/>I stopped by because of the comments you left on the blog, and I have a couple of things to note:<BR/><BR/>(1) The Bible does not endorse a caste system. Taken on-whole, all methods of distinguishing men by race or nation or economic status are abolished in Jesus Christ. We all come to him as disgusting beggars.<BR/><BR/>(2) The Bible does not endorse any particular culture. In fact, the Gospel is itself a culture which is supposed to invade every tribe, every tongue, every nation and turn it away from sin and toward Jesus Christ.<BR/><BR/>(3) There are no Christians I know who are 100% on-board with the above two statments. Even the ones who agree with me theoretically demonstrate (as I do) that we are not perfect. So if, for example, Americans attend churches by choice based on the general economic class of the congregation (and they do), they are as-guilty as Indians who allegedly believe the Gospel and still abide the caste system. Thank God for Jesus Christ who died for our stupid, selfish sins.<BR/><BR/>So if we are going to defend the faith, we ought to reform our minds and hearts and admit when we are stupid fools who do not reflect the cross of Christ so well. Honesty is the best policy.<BR/><BR/>Last thing: whenever someone starts bringing in examples from all kinds of unrelated sources, you can bet he's not a rational person. The matter of whether there is a Japanese caste system has nothing to do with whether there <I>ought to be</I> an Indian/Hindu caste system.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.com